Specifically on @glenshane and the potential greater risk of vaccinated people passing on the virus.
The unique thing about Covid is the ability of pre symptomatic people to infect others, the window between getting infected and having symptoms is key as those who do not have symptoms are clearly a huge risk of infecting others. With prior variants this gap was less than a day, so symptoms started a day after infection. Based on a recent study in China the gap for the Delta variant is longer at two days. 74% of all Delta infections occur during this pre symptomatic phase.
This explains why there is still high levels of transmission even though such a high percentage of people are vaccinated. There is not much difference in terms of transmission between vaccinated and unvaccinated, Delta has become the dominant strain and the positive effects of vaccination are wearing off after 3 months. The vaccinated are being told they are safe, so are more likely to behave in an unsafe manner.
This stuff is quite simple if you can get past the shrieking.
This is a deliberate misrepresentation of cause and effect. You have been blaming the vaccinated for Covid spread while effectively absolving the unvaccinated.
The problem is increased social interaction at a time when there remains a massive number of unvaccinated people driving the virus.
If you believe that that increased social interaction is a problem - and it strongly appears you do - as do I - then you are making ISAGās and Independent SAGEās point for them.
I canāt offer logic in this instance, which is what you originally asked for. I regard logic as more of a philosophical concept or tool, one that mightnāt work in this specific context. I actually think you were originally asking for an explanation as to āhowā? I honestly donāt knowā¦it even seems to have caught out the experts.
People are so brainwashed by two years of bullshit at this stage if everyone were vaccinated and infections were through the roof they would still argue that vaccination āstopsā transmission.
Ah sure Iām sure youāll have no problem arguing that this wasnāt clearly stated at all, what with you being so smart and all, and me taking you up all wrong again,
You were probably saying something completely different in which case you donāt need to support it in any way
I dont think so mate. Most of us are normal enough and can think and just want it over. It was the statement that vaccinations are causing are causing a rise in infections that pricked up my ears. Its bullshit.
Why are daily cases at 2k a day in Ireland when almost the entire adult population are vaccinated? It was less than 500 a day back in Feb/March when vaccination levels were low.
Holohan needs to come out with a heavyweight statement instead of sending that teaboy Glynn out to do a mans job. Holohan needs to put the fear of god into them
because there are literally millions upon millions of extra interactions between people every day now. Sure we were locked down in March here you lunatic. Do you honestly think vaccinations increase the incidence of infections? Surely all highly vaccinated countries should be riddled so?
