Coronavirus Thread (sponsored by Anthony Fauci & Pfizer) (Part 5)

[Copper_pipe]

Politics For All Ireland

[Iggy]

RTÉ News

[starryplough]

Bit of context

Conor

[Tassotti]

enjoy the pints lads, ye are fucked

[Julio_Geordio]

I could do with a dry November. The constant looming threat of going back into lockdown has me out every weekend

[glasagusban]

If they’d at least announce when the lockdown will be we could make a clear run at it.

[TheUlteriorMotive]

Booster 4 in June 2022 will let lads go on holidays to Killarney.

[Cheasty]

@ironmoth

You simply need look at the role that the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 receptor plays in pathogenesis and factor in children. There are peer-reviewed papers on this very subject.

Jargon, and extremely self conscious jargon at that. Jargon that is an attempt to portray an illusion of knowledge. If you need jargon to put your message across, you’re losing badly.

Real world evidence is in front of your eyes. Children spread this.

@ironmoth

This is a rather intolerant, but altogether incorrect view. People drive the pandemic.

The unvaccinated are people.

Intolerant to think otherwise.

@ironmoth

Covid is not a potentially life-threatening illness for children, and this is 100% supported by real world data.

700 plus children are dead in the US from this. 100 plus in the UK. Many hundreds more a month in Indonesia.

Letting Covid loose on children is a grotesque and unethical mass medical experiment. Beyond the already known about Long Covid we do not know the long term consequences.

@ironmoth

No. “We” don’t. Parents decide, through consultation with their GPs, what infectious diseases they should vaccinate their kids against. Some form part of routine childhood immunisation programmes, and others do not; the chickenpox vaccine being a prime example.

The worst kind of semantics. There will always be irresponsible parents, but we as a society have overwhelmingly taken the decision that we should vaccinate children.

@ironmoth

That’s a logical fallacy, if you don’t mind me saying so. I am 100% against giving young children the covid jabs because it is not a potentially life-threatening illness for them, it carries multiple risk factors, and it provides no protection to the community. I am 100% in favour of giving safe and effective vaccines to children that are at risk of potentially life-threatening illnesses, where the benefits can be shown to outweigh the risks.

Vaccinating children for Covid is the exact same principle as for everything else.

If and when the Covid vaccines are approved for children of all ages, it will be because they are safe and effective.

Same as they have already been proven to be safe and effective for all other ages.

@ironmoth

I don’t hold that view because, as I outlined, it’s a logical fallacy. I have applied critical thinking skills to the proposal to vaccinate young children, and I am happy to stand over my views. It is a ridiculous idea.

You haven’t applied critical thinking. You’ve applied the worst kind of lifestyle contrarianism. That’s as far away from critical thinking as is possible. Soundbytes.

[Cheasty]

Helen Branswell

[The_Most_Infamous]

Coronavirus - Here come the variants

Next October will tell a lot in relation to these vaccines here. The fact that they’re now saying they’re effects are not permanent leads me to believe we’ll be in level 5 lockdown next winter again, I’ve no doubt about it cc @backinatracksuit Hope I’m wrong but I think a lot of people are in for a big shock. Lockdowns are what is being deemed as the only tool to fully prevent future waves.

The next few weeks are crucial @backinatracksuit

[Watchyourtoes]

The hospital and ICU figures will catch you out yet, you need ICU pushing 200!

[The_Most_Infamous]

We’ll see mate. I want this shite over more than anyone but its not looking great.

The ICU and hospital admission numbers are stable to be fair which is good.

If Meehall Martin steps up on the podium over the next couple of weeks/months and calls a lockdown, I would not be surprised.

Awful thing is, he would probably secure his pathetic political future by doing so.

[backinatracksuit]

Just send me the bank or charity details or whatever when the time comes, don’t bother tagging me in the threads, I can’t be reading this repetitive shite here anymore

[Arthur]

ICU baby, shakin that ass

[The_Most_Infamous]

Grand, no bother.

[glenshane]

Shur our governments have contracts with Pfizer should anything go wrong

[fistoffury]

Cases have been on a fairly consistent upward trajectory but ICU and hospitalization seems to have leveled out. Hopefully that’s a trend

[carryharry]

Is their vaccine safe?

[Tierneevin1979]

According to Pfizer, yes.

[LionelRitchie]

I was just sent this and wondered about the credibility of the bmj. It’s of a decent calibre so?