Fine Gael - Hugging The Touchline On The Right Wing?

So it was a HoA rather than a contract and the terms were agreed pending ratification by IMO members? That’s a bit different to suggesting it was still under substantial negotiation.

Did the NAGP do anything with this apparently precious info that they got handed? If not - why not?

I’m still struggling to see what the benefit of getting this document was other than getting a heads-up. It’s a version of local politicians being told that some grant money or abroad project is coming the way of their constituency - they had no influence over the decision but use it to portray themselves in that way.

Actually Leo’s argument that it was part of an effort to secure the deal, however inappropriately and informally it was done, seems the most plausible.

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Did they seek to undermine it?

And if Leo wanted to undermine it he could have done it far easier being Taoiseach etc. I don’t see why he would want to undermine it though seeing as it was being touted as a political achievement.

Who knows but why were they so giddy to get their hands on it and take it apart?

But Varadkar did leak the document to them when he shouldn’t have.

He’s fucked.

Just reading about it, it’s strange the way that the IMO could negotiate but the NAGP would be “consulted”. Seems a strange thing in practice, we always end up with too many voices at the table in Union negotiations.

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They were GPs and a representative body of GPs so wanted to see what agreement had been reached regarding all GPs.

They got their hands on a leaked document negotiated by a rival body with the state that was not meant for circulation.

Your growth as a poster is encouraging.

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Curiosity? It was a fairly important deal that would impact on all of them.

Has there been any analysis of what was in the Heads that wasn’t in the extensive press release from the IMO in early April? In other words, do we know what was still confidential information?

Shur lads had probably nothing left to read during the first lockdown. I read all my Hardy boy collection again

The agreement is now a matter of public record, it runs to 110 pages, the presser was roughly a page and a half

I’d imagine there’s quite a bit of info that’s left out of the press release

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Meehawl isn’t going to jeopardize the two years at the top of the greasy pole he’s spent his entire career slithering up.

FF are fucked either way. Cowen and Callery will be fairly pissed off though.

The IMO were free to brief their members after that press release.

The IMO will now organise a series of consultative meetings for members and a ballot of GP members on the deal.

I suppose it depends if FG demanded resignations in those cases or if it was MM making the call. If the former then you’d imagine they’ll be upset but at the time it seemed more like internal FF calls

How come otoole didn’t share the doc with all NAGP members?

Leo needs to go lads

Sounds like a strange dynamic going by prior settlements

I think that’s a fair question but it is clear he shared it with the NAGP head honchos.

Did you not say that they wanted it because;

Going by the WhatsApp’s, they weren’t indicating where it came from, so your first statement seems moot. Now it’s that he didn’t share it with the wider group anyway- so what is the point you are making?