Iām going out tomorrow with a very tenured trail runner so Iāll see what they use. They mentioned something that goes over their shoulders.
If youāre going out on the mountains or deep into trails for a few hours youād be as well off looking at a hydration pack
Just get the most expensive one you can find, thatās a good tactic
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Here I was thinking that the flipbelt would be the answer to all my problemsā¦
A hat tip to @caulifloweredneanderthal though - those Decathlon trail shorts are excellent, and not just for trails.
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I use a hydration vest. Two soft flasks in the front pockets
or alternatively known as moobs 
I saw a chap running with one of these type of yokes last week. It was like part GPS system, part baby carrier. Seemed to have straps that went over the arm and then a buckle across the chest. A little compartment on the front then and he was dipping into it for food and drink.
Edit: It was probably one of these hydration vests. Like all this stuff, Iāll laugh at it and mock it and end up buying one a few months later.
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In true TFK style everyone is on the fence 
Iāll drink a clatter of cans tomorrow night and confirm the structure for the 10 mile challenge.
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This is the one I use. I probably would use it less than ten times a year on hill runs of 20km+. I actually brought it with me the other day and just used one flask, put my phone in the other pocket (the two photos I took helped me get 20 ālikesā on this thread) and put my running jacket in the back. I had a little bit of food stashed in case, but I reckon I only ended up drinking about 200ml of water
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Running a few calculations here (excuse the pun).
If I did 5km at 4.52/km the other day which was completely emptying the tank & 10km the week before at 5.11/km then whatās a realistic target for 10 miles/16.1km on the May bank holiday weekend?
Bearing in mind Iāve never run that far before & yesterdayās 11.25km was my longest ever run to date, but Iāve another 3 weeksā training.
Would something like 5.20/km/85 minutes be realistic, too ambitious, too conservative?
Went into the woods today for a changeā¦ Lovely bit of elevation after my obligatory downhill startā¦ Had to walk fora few seconds half way up. Completely different fitness , fair play to the lads who run them regularly.
I havenāt logged in here in a few days and missed this poll, also missed a seismic forum moment with @Bandageās latest effort, savage running mate.
Anyways I see the poll was a tie - I would have voted for the individual option if Iād seen it in case that affects your IPA-soaked decision. They didnāt call it The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner for nathinā.
Gonna have a first cut at the 10 mile tomorrow I think. It will be the furthest Iāve ever ran, the pace will be filed under ācautiousā.
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Longest run in a very long time. 11 odd mins of stops along the way too to take in some views. Was half crippled towards the end and then hit about 500m or lovely surface and was bouncing. Itās unreal how the surface can make such a difference.
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You couldnāt ask more.
If you look up McMillan calculator itāll give you a rough idea of what your times should be. Not always accurate when your going up in distance especially if you havenāt ran the distance before. Conservative approach is probably best and donāt worry about the time. Better to be able to pick it up at the end than starting off too fast and ended up walking after 7 or 8 miles. No harm to try and do 8 or 9 miles a couple of weeks before at a very easy pace.
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@Bandage I was just trying to figure out the same thing here - found the below:
https://lukehumphreyrunning.com/hmmcalculator/race_equivalency_calculator.php
Popped in my 5km and 10km times and itās telling me I should be going for around 4:50 min/km pace, around 1hr 18 mins total. Now Iāll definitely pull back on that a little as (a) Iāve never run that distance before and (b) I did a fast(ish) 5km on Thursday.
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Lovely hurling! Iāve another 700m of elevation lined up for the morning apparently. Wonāt see a bit of forestry track. All mountain and about 500 metres of actual road. Will be revisiting the nasty descent that I twisted my ankle on 5/6 weeks ago.
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My feeling is that you should aim for 1:30 as a minimum, Iād say you would be closer to 1:25.
For a distance like that it would be advisable to do at least that in training, so build up week by week extending your longest run,
Youāll be comfortable enough at that pace but itāll get very tough.
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Right lads, Iām gonna try give this a shot in the easiest way possible. Iām gonna give each person an individual time target and when Iāve figured that out I may try and sort some groups. Iām choosing an individual time target as I think the bandās will be too big.
The time target will be based on the 5k and/or 10k run for this year. To help me put it together, could each of you post up your average pace for the 5k and 10k you posted here? Iāll use the McMillan guide or some other one to figure out a 10 mile target pace and time. (@Bandage you can use your 5k pace from this week)
Iāve a few training plans I used to use that I might fire up too for lads who havenāt got to this distance before if thatās helpful. Trying to avoid lads picking up injuries from over running.
If youāve any objections, then youāre more than happy to take over the running of it 
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4.05 per km for both 5km and 10km for me anyway horse, best of luck with it.
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