Munster SHC Final 2017 - Clare v Cork

@Watch_The_Break is your man when it comes to Paul Flynns private life

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There was a close up of the match ball during a sideline and it looked like an unapproved sliotar (no GAA stamp). So Iā€™m guessing Clare just wanted to remove any unapproved sliotars from the game. Itā€™s the refs job, but in the heat of a Munster Finalā€¦

I see that Cobh wanker @mickee321 has gone fierce quiet about Cork Hurling all of a sudden. No more fucking on about Damien Cahalane and Bill Cooper being shite hurlers.

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you seem to be a deeply unhappy individual, full of bitterness

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@Tassotti
what can we do with @Turenne?
he is in a very negative place
wallowing in the past and blaming his inadequacies on others
there is a gloom over his posts, its very sad to see someone in his state

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You the same fella that was running down Corkā€™s chances before the Tipp game?

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The loneliness of the emigrant. And eating like a pig to try and hide his sadness.

Ooofftt!

I would always have considered you to be the most negative of all the Cork posters about our prospects tbh

Rubbish.

Kelly is one of the best players of all time ffs.

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Ridiculously negative.

I listened to advise both here ( @TheUlteriorMotive ) and offline that Kingston was a shrewd operator and given time would at least improve things. As someone who really believes these things take 2-3 years normally i think he has achieved this in super quick time. The extent of the improvement even beats normal Cork turnarounds

Its easy when it works out i suppose, but i think they have an attitude now that any of the 3 games they played could have been lost and theyā€™d still be 80-85% the same team.

I have never ever seen a turn around in tge attitude of management and coaches though. To get men if that age to chage, people with large egos starting is some achievement.

I work with people all the time in terms of change. Im fact you could say iā€™m in the business of change. And real change is slow and fucking hard. I use aome methods picked up from Toyota and Japenese culture in general in some facets and its simply ā€œdo the oppositeā€ of whats not working. The complete opposite. That looks like what Cork have done. They literally have done the opposite of everything.

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KK has no ego. Really open to ideas. He has added that bit of steel and has led them now.

Iā€™d have a slight concern about wheels coming off in a game if a team go after and target say McDonnell.
Galway could wreak havoc on them if they set up right but the trajectory is right and the players are now coming through from underage which was sort of always my point.

You see with Cody. Managers need players. Two or three stars makes a huge difference.

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Ya 100%.

I fear the year is too long for them. Alot of the u25ā€™s working since last August. Mentally more than physically thats hard to manage.

As you say that fullback line, as much as its improving, is still a worry in ways. McDonnell only one not to play well consistantly. And Spillane wS super for 95% of the game yet McGrath got a vital 1-1 (i realise he may not have been on McGrath the entire time, but was gor those scores.

Galway could simply go direct into FF line all the time with 2 Cooneys and whoever in there and cause wreck.

But that said, they might do that to everyone.

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Programmed to do otherwise and not able to think for themselves?

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Maybe. Both are young though. McCarthyā€™s first season and Fitzgeraldā€™s third start. Generally players donā€™t have the greatest situational awareness at that age. But our defending is a bit innocent anyway. The mindset of the Lohans, Doyle, or Daly just isnā€™t there. Of course it wasnā€™t always there for those lads either. Theyā€™d a rough enough apprenticeship in 93 & 94.

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The Clare management have called Cork apologizing. Talk about a bad week getting worseā€¦

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Donalā€™s a professional. Nip it in the bud.

Joyce would be my concern. Im amazed teams have not targeted him so far. Shocking under high ball.

His Chinese girlfriend broke up with him there last year and he had to move into the spare room of the dingy flat he leased with her and listen to her getting her little hole reddened by a different dirty little Chinese fucker every Saturday night as he scuttles across to the tiny shared jacks with bouts of scutter after coming home from ā€˜dinnerā€™.

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