Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 2) - Neocons Strike Back

[Tassotti]

Thats absolutely disgraceful. Good to see money being well spent

[glenshane]

@glenshane

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Do you need help?

[Kyle]

Beyond that point I’d say pal.

[glenshane]

I see the Ukrainians are drafting wimmin now. I’d say he’s delighted

[Kyle]

Where will the partition lines be drawn?

[Kyle]

Kharkiv to Kherson is some chunk of land to give up… It’s also a poor return from Putin’s point of view when you consider what Russia has lost.

[glenshane]

I think odessa will be the final battle, if a deal cant be reached

[habanerocat]

This is how it stands now.

[glasagusban]

Just cost the 300k casualties, a good half its tanks and armoured vehicles and becoming an international pariah for all powerful mother Russia to take that chunk out of Ukraine. And its hold on Crimea is much weaker than before the invasion, it can’t even park ships there any more. Bravo Putin

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

If only the Ukrainians had surrendered and let Russia take over the whole country like the lads on here suggested.

[myboyblue]

Mate we have bigger issues at home. Ignore this local squabble.

[glenshane]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

like the lads on here suggested.

Fire up the post there…name the lads

[Cheasty]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

If only the Ukrainians had surrendered and let Russia take over the whole country like the lads on here suggested.

The edgelord position

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

It was putins plan all along to enter a near two year conflict

[glasagusban]

Losing half his army’s vehicles will free up so much parking space. And the 300k casualties will save a fortune on the wage bill. It’s all going to plan.

[Cheasty]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

It was putins plan all along to enter a near two year conflict

This was obvious at the start.

@Cheasty

The problem is the minimum Putin will settle for as a so called “diplomatic solution” is something that completely destroys Ukraine’s ability to function as a state.

That is not acceptable. You’re probably better off taking your chances fighting Russia than giving up your state to tyranny.

Neither would giving up Ukraine to tyranny be the end of this. Not by a long shot.

The 2024 US election and the installation of tyranny in the US for the longer term is the medium term target of Putin.

@Cheasty

The greatest threat in terms of giving in to Russian power in the west is internal. Russia has fifth columnists inside every western society trying to tear these societies apart, and has been very successful at doing so so far. Whether they are Russian agents, Russian assets or neither of these things - and the vast majority are neither - is irrelevant. The tragic truth is that the interests of western kleptocrats align almost perfectly with that of Putin. And they increasingly control the narrative, with the help of ether paid by Russia chaos agents or in most cases useful idiots. Informational warfare that is either Russian in origin or which helps Russia is everywhere online.

As I said earlier, the 2024 US presidential election will be Ground Zero of this. If the wrong result happens, say bye bye to any sort of meaningful western resistance to Putin.

Putin’s objective is to sow as much chaos in the west in any way he can, through whatever source, no matter what the human cost. The guy is severely underrated in a list of history’s greatest bastards.

[Kyle]

Putin, Putin, Putin…

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

Another loss to sleepy joe and the american military industrial complex

[glenshane]

The weapons industry is a major winner, much of the hundreds of billions being spent is being paid directly to weapons manufacturers in the US. Nato has a few new members to arm and vlad has demonstrated that patriot missiles and leopard tanks are a bit shit and will have to be replaced. Nuclear arms treaties are no longer valued and a new arms race looks like a glorious possibility.
It’s been a PR own goal for the west and a needless tragedy for Ukraine, the world is a more dangerous and expensive place, but i doubt that joe even understands or cares about any of this

[Kyle]

@glenshane

weapons industry

Aren’t many US pension funds invested in the weapons industry,?