The Rugby Thread (Part 2)

[Tim_Riggins]

But your moan was;

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Leinster have Irelands 2nd and 3rd fly halve, 4 of 5 best centres and our two 2 full backs possibly 3.

Loughman is one of Ireland’s props, and you have him.

Joey Carbery did not work out for you, but he was back up 10 when you signed him and the hottest young 10 in Ireland.

Tadgh Beirne is evidence that the cast off thing is ridiculous. He had hit a wall with Leinster and went and bettered himself elsewhere. You of course have him as well, rather than him returning to Leinster.

I see above some moans that you “can’t play with under 20s”. But that is exactly what Leinster do for much of the season. The 19/20 Leinster player in the Irish squads (more than the central contracts) appear sparingly for a lot of the season.

The point is on just producing better players yourselves and it isn’t as challenging as you make out. You have the Cork schools and Rockwell producing players at a clip. Pay attention to the Limericks schools and the clubs, just as how Leinster focus so much on clubs.

You aren’t that far off in reality.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Tim_Riggins

But your moan was;

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Leinster have Irelands 2nd and 3rd fly halve, 4 of 5 best centres and our two 2 full backs possibly 3.

Loughman is one of Ireland’s props, and you have him.

Joey Carbery did not work out for you, but he was back up 10 when you signed him and the hottest young 10 in Ireland.

Tadgh Beirne is evidence that the cast off thing is ridiculous. He had hit a wall with Leinster and went and bettered himself elsewhere. You of course have him as well, rather than him returning to Leinster.

I see above some moans that you “can’t play with under 20s”. But that is exactly what Leinster do for much of the season. The 19/20 Leinster players (more than the central contracts) rarely appear.

The point is on just producing better players yourselves and it isn’t as challenging as you make out. You have the Cork schools and Rockwell producing players at a clip. Pay attention to the Limericks schools and the clubs, just as how Leinster focus so much on clubs.

You aren’t that far off in reality.

Tim Leinster have a massive advantage due to the fee paying schools. You can wind mill away. It’s a fact.

I’ve said already I don’t think Munster are actually doing too badly. They’ve gotten rotten luck and had to deal with a fair few retirements but bar Leinster taking their eye off the ball Munster are boxing with one hand tied behind their backs.

[Halfpipe]

That Tim O’Connor fella is great craic, absolutely clueless but convinced he is an authority on all sorts.

[Tim_Riggins]

Of course it’s an advantage.

The point is that it is one you share in.

And I am happy enough for the other provinces to continue to be handed a Joey Carbury.

Or a Test Lion like Jack McGrath being pushed elsewhere.

I’m even fine with Munster trying to sign a Luke Fitzgerald or Andrew Conway straight out of school like they have before.

Double digit percentages of your squads continuing to be from Leinster is grand.

The improvement is needed in your own player production, which is happening with Munster.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

I’m not moaning. I’m merely pointing out jordie Barrett singing for Leinster isn’t good for Irish rugby

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Tim_Riggins

Of course it’s an advantage.

The point is that it is one you share in.

And I am happy enough for the other provinces to continue to be handed a Joey Carbury.

Or a Test Lion like Jack McGrath being pushed elsewhere.

I’m even fine with Munster trying to sign a Luke Fitzgerald or Andrew Conway straight out of school like they have before.

Double digit percentages of your squads continuing to be from Leinster is grand.

The improvement is needed in your own player production, which is happening with Munster.

We’ll be here for a month Tim. It’s not advantage for Munster to be filled with Leinster rejects.

It’s a part of the problem for Irish rugby.

[Tim_Riggins]

I think it’s a great thing.

I’d rather the provinces sign good quality o/s players like De Allende and Barrett.

Boosts interest and if you are going to have overseas players, may as well be the best.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

He’ll be keeping an Irish starter out of the team.

[Tim_Riggins]

But above you moaned that;

“Leinster have 2 out of 3 of Ireland’s outhalfs”

Leinster also had a decade ago 2 out 3 them (Sexton and Madigan).

Sexton moved abroad because of a balls up in his contract and then Madigan followed once Sexton came back.

Madigan fell off the face of the earth and Joey C quickly became the back up 10.

He was handed to Munster.

What do you want?

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@BruidheanChaorthainn

I’m not moaning. I’m merely pointing out jordie Barrett singing for Leinster isn’t good for Irish rugby

I don’t think he’s good for Irish rugby. I don’t think he’s bad either. Good for Leinster though. Yes, we’re stacked in the back line but it’s hard to see how you’d pass on a player of that quality.

[Tim_Riggins]

Unlikely with the way injuries work.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

I pointed out facts.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Tim_Riggins

But above you moaned that;

“Leinster have 2 out of 3 of Ireland’s outhalfs”

Leinster also had a decade ago 2 out 3 them (Sexton and Madigan).

Sexton moved abroad because of a balls up in his contract and then Madigan followed once Sexton came back.

Madigan fell off the face of the earth and Joey C quickly became the back up 10.

He was handed to Munster.

What do you want?

Madigan was a useless fraud of a player. That shat his pants in any game that required a bit of back bone.

Sexton left because he wanted more money and then the Irfu bended the rules and allowed him to play for Ireland when he was in France.

Amazing the way the rules always get broken for Leinster players.

[Tim_Riggins]

So you think Munster having Joey C, Conway, Beirne, Loughman and others was a bad thing?

When Munster were producing extra stocks and Leinster had Reddan, Ross and Cronin, I sure as hell wasn’t saying it was a bad thing.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Tim_Riggins

So you think Munster having Joey C, Conway, Beirne, Loughman and others was a bad thing?

When Munster were producing extra stocks and Leinster had Reddan, Ross and Cronin, I sure as hell wasn’t saying it was a bad thing.

No tim I’m saying having one provinces seriously advantaged over another is a bad thing for Irish rugby overall.

I don’t know if you believe in fairness or equality but I do.

[Tim_Riggins]

So now you’re just going on about the merits of each player. The fact was that Madigan was one of the outhalfs in the Ireland squad with over 30 caps in 4 seasons.

You’re pissing and moaning about “Leinster have 2 out of 3 of the Irish outhalfs” when consistently this has not persisted and those players have left to either go abroad or to other provinces.

[Tim_Riggins]

This is also what you said;

The Rugby Thread (Part 2)

We’ll be here for a month Tim. It’s not advantage for Munster to be filled with Leinster rejects. It’s a part of the problem for Irish rugby.

Are you saying that Tadgh Beirne is bad for Munster Rugby?

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Tim_Riggins

So now you’re just going on about the merits of each player. The fact was that Madigan was one of the outhalfs in the Ireland squad with over 30 caps in 4 seasons.

You’re pissing and moaning about “Leinster have 2 out of 3 of the Irish outhalfs” when consistently this has not persisted and those players have left to either go abroad or to other provinces.

I’m not pissing and moaning about this at all despite you saying this three times.

It’s a fact imo. It also means from an Irish rugby point of view signing Barrett is not good because it’ll be an Irish international player losing out.

[Tim_Riggins]

Once again, is Beirne a bad thing for Munster?

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

Murray, Pom and earls all come off central contracts.

Replaced by three Leinster players.

Munster have to make various cuts to playing squad to adjust.

Leinster sign jordie Barrett and rj Synman with freed up budget from central contracts.

It’s serving Leinster brilliantly but for Irish rugby it’s not good.