tell that to his paymaster in Clontarf RFC
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Yeah to be fair to the lad he is right to be at the rugby. If it doesnāt work out Iām sure both squads would love to have him.
Short puck out fucked us last night, how did we not push up on every man for the last puck out?
similar to my point on the ball into the square, and similar to the footballers point conceded to Laois etc. When players get to a stage of the game and they are unsure of what to do, they will automatically just start running backwards and defend space.
Watch the goal again and watch Molloys movement for it. For some reason, he as the midfielder was marking Bleahane the full forward. As the ball drops, he runs back behind the last line of defenders towards the goal. I wouldnt be putting blame on him for this, itās a natural reaction, but itās one that needs to be coached. I hate quoting other sports or coaches, but Belichick is a mastermind of situational football and has specific drills for players to put them in game situations and see what their reaction will be. Game situations where you have 60 seconds to score/not concede should be part of trainings. Do you all fall back in defence en masse? Or do you man mark and keep tight? The easier thing to do is mark space, tired minds and bodies. One on one can be dangerous too if you let your man through.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but it is annoying to lose games when ahead by poor play and conceding decisive scores with last shots of the game. (and I include our own junior final this year in that too)
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prevent defence prevents very littleā¦by trying to prevent a big play you give lads time to set it up. I know itās easy to say from the ditch, but surely if you work on marking for puck outs wholesale it becomes second nature as itās ingrained in you.
Disappointing to lose obviously when you a win was there.
Were ye in a Junior Final? dont seem to recallā¦
Its just lads lose focus at the end of games in tight situations. Its why the good teams succeed (see Dublins reaction to going a point up) and the bad ones dont (see Meaths reaction to going a point up v Tyrone). Prepare for that specific part of a game. Similar to Wexford in 96 who had prepared for being a man down and how to play if that happens. Our lads last night went to shite when we had the man extra. As you say, very easy to say sitting on the ditch.
yeah we got to a Junior final there alright. I think ye were in the same competition last year too, but lost in the first game of itā¦
if im honest itās hard to keep track with all of our recent successā¦
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@Gman, I find your posts on situational coaching very interesting. Iāve had intermittent thoughts on this when watching Wexford teams at all levels playing over the years.
Aside from points youāve made like training for a specific instance such as having a minute to defend a lead or work a score, I sometimes got the impression that we didnāt actually have any general plan of how to attack or defend cohesively. It was the old line out where selected and win your position. Watching a defender win a ball and blem it up the field time after time often made me wonder, for example, āhave we ever trained for the left half back getting clean possession with time to deliver the ball forward?ā
Thankfully that has changed more recently and we play some decent stuff with support play and movement. I think we could be more organised, mean and cynical (in a borderline legal way) when defending collectively though.
I get that hurling is played at a high tempo with less natural breaks, itās physical and the ball moves quickly and travels far so itās not straightforward to control a given āsituationā. I also donāt necessarily think itās a bad thing to funnel men back to protect the āDā when trying to prevent a late goal. Itās just a pity the young lad last night decided to leave his man and to cover the space behind those going up for the ball.
I imagine Davyās system(s) involves plenty of this situational coaching. Do you know if this is the case?
When I say situation type training, its more to do with a particular scenario in a game rather than having set plays or anything. So like the above, the opposition need a goal in 60 seconds, or 2 minutes or whatever, what do you do. Or vica versa, you need to score. Do you just lump it forward in hope, or pick off points whilst the opponents drift back aimlessly.
We took some serious scores last night, O Connors one where we had about ten passes in the lead up to it left him free to score. Exploited the passing and created space. But when we had a man extra we were hitting and hoping instead of doing what worked when we had 15 on 15. Its that type of scenario too. How do you utilise the extra man? Have they played training sessions with an extra man on either side? The more they train this way, the less likely theyāll tire in the mind and just revert to type, ie lumping it forward or running back marking no one. I dont mind numbers coming back, but it has to be organised. Not just everyone going back to fill spaces. It should be set, man on man and who will be free to challenge the high ball in.
I would imagine Davy does train this way. Iāve only seen a couple of sessions which were much earlier in the year and they didnt really do that sort of stuff at all. Just the run of the mill drills and game and plenty of shouting and cursing.
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Didnāt Griffin famously plan in the build up for the All Ireland Final in '96 what we would do if someone was sent off, went through all eventualities for every player so when it happened, everyone knew theyāre role. I imagine that level of meticulous planning for situations hasnāt happened in quite a while.
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I vividly remember him talking about it in some video I watched that was released to celebrate the All Ireland win. It had Jimmy Magee commentating on the final for some bizarre reason.
There havenāt been too many all Irelandās since. Donāt know if such preparation went into each game that year tbf .
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Thatās a gas video, Magee clearly was commentating after the game was over. At one point he says āIf I know Storey heāll score from hereā.
With regard to the planning, Griffin even had them paint the large logo onto the training field so theyād be used to it.
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i think Liam Dunne mentioned it in his book too.
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Ah lads, when you had the likes of Ger Cushe, Liam Dunne and Eamon Scallan on the one team planning on playing with 14 men was hardly a master stroke. It was more like planning for the inevitable.
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What ever about Cushe & Dunne, Scallan had very little else to offer.
None of those players had been sent off while playing for Wexford up to that point in time. Ger Cushe never was and Scallan only was that one time.
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Truth be told we may have been better off without Scallon that day.
Definitely. I thought Paul Finn had earned the start after his cameo against Galway in the semi-final.