Coronavirus - Here for life (In high population density areas)

There will be eventually but thatā€™s a good way off and weā€™re not there yet. It also sounds messy. Take your point but I think getting it right with what we have in hand first is the right approach.

Mugwump logrolling cunts.

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Dreadful. I suppose it makes sense to get the entire staff of a hospital vaccinated and know none of the staff can bring it in, but still it looks awful.

The optics are terrible regardless. I donā€™t get the sense of emergency with getting the vaccine out there, especially when every other facet of the pandemic response is being communicated with dire warnings.

Not starting for a few days after it landed was absolutely shocking.

There should be no excuse for inventory to sit idle 24/7. This is a pandemic we are told. Emergency response to emergency situation. Lash it out around the clock.

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Look, thereā€™ll be plenty of time to criticise the vaccination programme when big nunbers of vaccines arrive and we are behind most other EU countries in administering it. Thatā€™s my expectation.

But for now, jumping up and down and shouting that you want it done faster isnā€™t really justified or productive.

People are at the end of their patience though and want to see action and progress towards the end.

If the frontline staff werenā€™t too busy drinking Baileys and watching Indiana Jones on the 27th when the hospitals were empty we could have started to vaccinate hem on their day off. Theyā€™d be less likely to now be infected now and/ or too busy now to get the vaccine now that the hospitals are busy.

Oh well, keeping the vaccines in a freezer wasnā€™t material.

Having a dig at frontline staff and making out theyā€™re slacking off? Thatā€™s a pathetic post.

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Exactly. And watch in a matter of weeks how vaccine inventory will pile up just like backlog of swabs.

Anything to hand should be lashed in now. Thereā€™s only a negative value to it sitting in the freezer when could be put to use.

I donā€™t believe Iā€™m jumping up and down. I merely asked what you meant by successful ā€¦ I have zero expectations for the government/hse to do it right so Iā€™m not vexed in the slightestā€¦ My expectations are being met.

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I donā€™t think the supply of millions is going to come in that fast or that it makes sense to squander it by having to repeat vaccinations. Perhaps Iā€™m wrong though.

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vaccinating will outpace supply you think?

Weā€™re off to a start contrary to that.

You are. You both want it done faster and had a dig at public servants. That constitutes jumping up and down.

Having a dig at public servants is standard.

No I donā€™t think so.

Youā€™re suggesting weā€™ll have so much on hand we should just lash it out.

First I donā€™t think that will be the case and second I donā€™t think we will have really big amounts on hand for some months yet.

As of now we have a limited amount of doses, I wouldnā€™t want to waste any by not ensuring they are used correctly. My understanding is that this means the second dose has to be administered within the correct time frame or else the effects are not successful or long lasting.

When big numbers of supply are on hand the programme will increase in size and big numbers of people will get vaccinated. It will take a couple of months to hit that though.

Lads I had a more solid vaccination plan with a better chance of success drawn up in 5 minutes on the bog for the lads I argue with on the Internet.

We have 10s of government ministers, top civil servants and advisers getting paid ā‚¬100k per year working on this. 3 weeks after the first pallet and its a shambles.

Ireland never changes

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And highly encouraged. Its more fun when you say it to their face too.

No, Iā€™m suggesting any that are on hand should be used immediately. Iā€™ve no belief weā€™ll have so much to hand but any we do, should be used immediately

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Ok.

Iā€™m saying that while supplies are limited it is better to plan to ensure it is used successfully rather than immediately.

Why canā€™t you have both says you, but if itā€™s a choice between fast or correct, Iā€™d go with the latter.